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Dare To Stand With Me

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Do You Dare To Stand With Me?

No one has for the long haul so far. And I'm not talking about anyone who has been too busy or otherwise unable to keep a regular ongoing communication going. I mean people who appear to agree with me on one big important thing, only to disagree and hopelessly clash on another equally important thing so that I just can't relate properly, even on the things we initially seemed to agree on.


I can't count the number of internet communities I either left or got kicked out of because I don't fit in anywhere.

This is because every net community seems to have the same prevailing little collectivist boxes that you have to sit neatly in if you want to get along with whatever majority is there, or chaos where everyone and anything is allowed.

I constantly come up against "fun/social" sites, and "Christian" communities that love chain forwards.

I constantly find out that the vast majority of people on the net who express annoyance with and break chain letters AKA chain emails or posts, AKA virals, AKA forwards, are non-Christian, left-wing, and many are all out Christophobes. and eco/animal activists.

Then, when I try to make a site that smashes chain letters, who do I end up attracting, much to my disgust? Fan-brats/4channers!

Fangirls Throw Tantrums Over Dislike Of Anime

Otaku Desu Fight

Brony Rants At Amanda Marcotte

One admitted sadistic trouble-maker kept trying to get on my site to be kicked out again and again, and it took me getting really nasty before she finally gave up.

All of these remind me of my first especially unimpressive experiences of exposure to the world of fandoms, otaku in particular. I disliked them then, I do now, and always will.

You know you're anti-fandom fandom when

You Know You Are A Brony/Pegasister If

You Know You Are Otaku If

Trying to find people beyond my site that I can relate to, gets me this kind of experience all the time:

Argh! Once again, someone who wrote such a good article showing sense about chain forwards turns out to be another animal rights nutter believing in all that Peta stupidity!

A conservative blog posts an absolutely great article about the problems with chain letters, but then does a complete about-face, tossing all that out the window to fall for a chain letter that came from these sites!


Animal welfare/rights (AW/AR,) and environmentalism, food-cop activism, anti-abortionism, Racism/Sexism, playing the race/gender/"NAZI" card, affirmative action, and Lulz, Christophobia, and starting/spreading virals AKA chain emails, FB LMS (Like My Status) and repost schemes, memes, in other words, any and all types of chain letter posts.

I will not support a single one of those. Not even against the others.

Animal rights/welfare/rescue activism accuses people falsely of animal abuse/neglect/irresponsibility. People have been devastated beyond recovery after harassments, raids, false arrests and charges, animals needelessly killed in these raids. People are being criminalized for wanting to own something other than the average dog or cat. The animal/eco/green movement is in actuality misanthropic, that is, a deep hatred of the human race is at the very center of it all. It is undemocratic and puritanical. No animal should be considered illegal to own as if it was a street drug. No one should be subjected to indoctrination that says the world is going to hell in a handbasket and it's all the fault of "those evil greedy selfish humans" but that's exactly what's being touted by the religion of environmentalism AKA the green movement, and it's a lie. With so many people believing this junk, it's small wonder so many people are insecure, confused, and resorting to drugs, alcohol or even suicide. Environmentalism has nothing good to offer the world.

The same goes for veganism and any sort of food-cop ideologies that try to scare, shame, and bully people into eating carrot sticks instead of a smoked salmon sandwich or hot dog or any food of their own choosing.

But I hate torture and I just think people should "respect animals more." Well good for you, you hate torture, so do I, so does anyone with a conscience. That has nothing to do with the issue and doesn't make you any more special or unique than the next person. All good farmers, pet owners etc. 'respect' their animals, but the problem is the activists don't respect either those animal owners or their animals, and they try very hard, going as far as using the media to get people believing that people are "disrespectful" to animals and that pet owners are bad or "irresponsible" by default. And they latch on to any real abuse cases as well as make false accusations in order to manipulate people into swallowing anti-meat, anti-pet, anti-medical research etc. etc. etc. agendas. Very much like the manipulations chain letters use to get people stirred up into spreading hoaxes.

The media rarely bothers to report anything good about pit bulls for example, but every single pit bull attack gets splatted all over the news and then the activism against pit bull ownership kicks into high gear again, and the public get mislead into believing all pit bull dogs are dangerous and all pit bull owners are "irresponsible" and that with all pit bulls, it isn't a question of if, but of when it will attack somebody. They don't want you finding out that for every bad news story there are tons of other pit bulls that never attack and their owners are not the stereotypical dogfighter HSUS wants you thinking of the minute you see or hear about pit bulls.

that doesn't mean you're safe among the pitiful owners for company either, animal welfare extremists are in among them too. They may not condemn you for eating meat, but you just never know who is going to trash-talk about another pet owner, accusing them of some kind of abuse or neglect. No matter where you are in the internet pet communities, there are always those around that, even if they own animals, will have no qualms about trying to police the next person and decide who should have the right to own what.

No, opposing the food-cop agenda is nowhere near the same thing as spreading that false anti-Obama or kidney theft chain letter, and is not "magical thinking" as this pro-food cop agenda idiot would have people believe.

Anti-abortionists accuse every woman who has ever had an abortion no matter what the circumstances, of murder! The anti-abortionism chain letter smashed along with a few other hoaxes on this page is entirely typical, showing no compassion at all for the woman and seeking no retribution for her beater of a boyfriend in the end.

That is as grievous as what the animal rights/welfare/rescues do to pet owners.

If the anti-abortionists had their way, they'd probably be conducting raids on homes as well, trying to take away children from anyone who ever had an abortion, and having the mothers arrested for murder of an unborn child. How would you feel if you knew someone who had an abortion either by their own choice because they were too young to have the baby, or it wasn't their decision and someone forced them into getting it, and what if that embryo was a result of a sexual assault, and some anti-abortionist accused your friend/relative of murder!? Animal welfare activism and their agendas are slinking into the legal system, and they are already treating innocent people in this way over trumped up accusations of animal abuse.

Anti-abortionism is a liability to the GOP and the republican platform, and gives all conservatives a bad name. It needs to go!

Susan Smith didn't have abortions. She was a true baby-killer…

The couple of people I know who had abortions are not baby-killers, they would never ever torture and murder anyone… They were sickened by what Susan Smith did. They would be absolutely horrified by what Theresa Knorr did to her family. They do not think it's okay to drown infants and toddlers in a lake or a tub or anywhere else, shoot, starve etc. teenagers to death, etc.

And they will not be believed if they argue "I'm not accusing anyone you know" with that "baby-killer" label. Every time they scream about the unborn as being "murdered" they are accusing everyone who's had a brought-on miscarriage, of being a Susan Smith or even a Theresa Knorr.

Jeb Bush of course doesn't go far enough on advising the GOP about what to do in the future to reach a broader audience. On that page are naturally the typical blathering racist democrat comments and more of their imaginary "war on women" bull they've always used trying to vilify republicans, but they also need to change more than just their tone. There's a lot wrong with both parties.

An absolutely excellent response by Krista was made to this all too typical far-right anti-abortionist Yahoo question.

She deserves best answer, she is absolutely spot on here! Krista says:

"What you've claimed isn't a "conservative" position. It's a far right position that has hijacked the conservative name. The "conservatives" in this country are few and far between. They believe wholeheartedly in small government and freedom. You are calling for the government to control every woman's uterus, making women and their doctors criminals, solely for wanting to control their own bodies.

Sadly for you, this will be the destruction of the republican party. Not abortion, but the fact that the GOP and actual conservatives are in a massive fight for control of the party. If the GOP...that's you...wins, it will mean that actual conservatives are booted out of your party or willingly walk away, dividing the GOP vote for an actual conservative platform. It also means that, as more and more Americans begin to realize that the GOP does NOT remotely care about spending OR less government--as is repeatedly proven every time they are in power, the GOP will be hopelessly lost to the annals of time."

Yes! High 5 to you Krista!

I will not fall in line with the so-called "pro-choice" extremists who are clearly on the left and always moaning on about so-called "overpopulation" as this violent, obnoxious brat does. "overpopulation" Really? So what do you want me to do about it, kill myself? If you overpopulation whiners are so upset why don't YOU do something personal about it - without harming anyone else, of course? What? You can't? Okay then, shut the - hex - up! *Biting tongue*

As Miljana Mandich put it so clearly on the Mediate article link:

"For hard core progressives abortion is all about population control and eugenics. Everything else is window dressing."

Here here!

And you know what 'control' really means, right? They want the power to make you stop doing everything they want you to stop… You get no say in the matter.

Of course the typical response I get whenever I say that animal rights and anti-abortion activists are alike, the only difference being one group screams "Animal abuser/murderer!" over animals, the outer group screams "Baby killer!" over the unborn, is activist idiots shrieking about how I must not care about the animals or babies.


how I feel about animals or babies is not the issue, so don't try that tactic with me.

I'm talking about the morons who think they're so compassionate and heroic as they hurl all kinds of abusive language and attitudes at people who use animal products or have had abortions. So-called "pro-life" "animal rights" activists are so busy bullying their fellow human beings with lies and atrocious judgement calls that the bad they do outweighs any good.

The same goes for feminism and meninism. Both movements are full of hate toward the opposite gender. The average internet activist in these groups is also a shallow and gutter-minded moron, particularly among extreme feminism and the subsection of meninism known as Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW).

Feminists believe women are absolutely oppressed by men everywhere due to some conspired world-wide patriarchy.

To meninists, MGTOW especially, there are only two kinds of women. Feminists, or gold-digging spoiled brats out to use and throw men away.

Feminism says women should be allowed to walk around looking like sluts without anyone daring to disagree with or even feel uncomfortable with it.

Meninism says women who don't cover up are asking for cat-calls and oggling, which is a natural and okay thing men should have the right to do.

Feminists believe being male = being a rapist by nature, and all of them will rape if they aren't taught not to at a young age.

Meninism, particularly MGTOW says being a feminist = being ugly, fat, and miserable for lack of having sex...

Feminism uses their own stupid terminology to dismiss everything men say or do as either invalid or evil. "Mansplaining" means "Don't listen to him, his story doesn't matter, he's just a man so he's misogynistic anyway. "Rape culture" is the most offensive and misleading terms they use to describe our society, not some place in the developing world.

Meninism does this too with their vulgar term to describe our society as "pussified". Oh, how I hate that term!

Both movements, or a lot of commenters I've seen within them, boil everything down to "This person has more privilege because they have a (insert genitalia type here).

I say both movements suck and the world would be better off without either of them and their stupid terminology and attitudes.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure meninism would go away if feminism would leave the civilized world alone and focus instead on human rights problems in the third world/developing countries.

But modern-day feminism comes from communism, so by nature, it's all about trying to police everybody else's thoughts and actions, and they use bogus stats and statements to bully the western world into either self-hatred or scared silent. Third wave feminists are not interested in stopping real gender inequality that happens in the third world.

Their bullcrap is so prevalent that it dominates the media and passes itself off for information and reality.

There are so-called men's rights activists who are trying to push back and present a more accurate view, but they shouldn't be called men's rights, they should be called gender egalitarians IMO. They are not to be confused with the extremist feminists or meninists.

One such egalitarian points out on his video How misandrist Dr. Phil is, and how he canceled some show that was supposed to feature a gender egalitarian because the audience sided with her against the feminist cult. BTW Dr. Phil once did some show ages ago touting the animal welfare/rights anti-large dog breeder thing too. The whole stupid "Breeders are mills!" thing.

That's happening all the time. Television commercials touting feminism are airing, presenting this whole "Girls are doomed to be oppressed!" propaganda as fact, and their man-hating, woman-worshiping agenda as a good cause.

The gender egalitarians are trying to speak out, and as usual, are getting drowned out by extremists.

For every good video on Youtube, there are ten horrible extremist ones, and thousands more extremist comments.

Racism/sexism should be self-explanatory, but apparently some people need to be clued in. Racism isn't just whites hating the blacks of yesteryear. Racism is when anyone plays the race card "You didn't accept me because I'm (insert skin color!" Racism/sexism is affirmative action that says you must absolutely hire this many people of this skin color or of that gender. Same goes for the gender role crap "Hillary didn't get to be prez because there's a deep hatred for women all throughout America!" "If you don't agree with Obama, you must be a racist!" That's playing the gender and race card, so that is racist and sexist, and it is bullying, same as playing the "nazi" card whenever people don't get their way or just don't like something.

Playing the "Nazi" card is accusing mostly people who have not committed sadistic acts of committing them. It is also trivializing and dismissing what really happened in the holocaust. The left calls the right nazis, and the right calls the left nazis, either directly or indirectly, and it is offensive and inexcusible unless and until the judgment is actually against someone who has and supports the commission of genocide, rape, torture, slavery, you get the idea...

Chain letters are hoaxes, nonsense, many if not most created by anonymous cowards who get lulz out of manipulating people into passing them on. In addition, not only do they fuel the fire and spread propaganda, they consist of everything under the sun that can push any known emotional hot button in the human world. Chain letters do falsely accuse and lie about absolutely anything, they are annoying net-cloggers and often nonsensical at best and malicious slanderous garbage, harassment, bad propaganda at worst, and they make people who believe and replicate them look stupid. They are also annoying, unoriginal, and the best way to ruin one's reputation and lose friends. Chain letters are spam. Spam is bad, no matter what the content or message.

Lulz is viral bullying. It is deliberately singling out someone vulnerable, or a very tragic situation, and getting sick belly-laughs out of it. Lulz is AWS downing someone they accuse of animal cruelty and chortling at the misfortunes, even the deaths of people they believe to have abused an animal. Lulz is when people make up dying kid hoax chain letters and other such junk, including so-called satire that touches the nerves of Christians in North America especially, since they are so easy to tweak and manipulate into passing on everything that tells them their religion is about to be killed forever and forever... Lulz is laughing at people committing suicide, lulz ridicules physical and mental conditions such as autism, deafness etc. Lulz is when people see a story about a woman getting murdered by a man she tried to prevent from raping someone else, all the lulz-addicts care about is why the journalist writing or broadcasting the story isn't the one given the murder sentence, all because they don't like the particular journalist. So what if someone nearly got raped and another person got killed, and a family has to deal with the disgrace and grief of one of their own being responsible for it, the IMPORTANT THING for the lulzers is that the journalist covering the story should've got life! And, lulzers get extremely childish and stupid when their botched attempts at humor fail miserably and warm-blooded humans aren't laughing.

Just because you hate the lulz doesn't mean you can expect me to support you in any way if you're a tree-hugger.

Just because you want to fight against animal rights doesn't mean you have a right to expect me to support your anti-abortionist agenda!

Just because you're all fired up about anti-abortion activists does not mean I'm your friend if you turn out to be a feminist. That's not about equality, it's sexism, pro-female.

Just because you think animal rights, anti-abortionism and gender issues are pathetic doesn't mean I'll join with you in ridiculing them if you turn out to be any of these: neopagan, atheist, anti-theist, Christophobic 4chan/anonymous/Encyclopedia Dramatica-loving, lulz-addicted fool!

Just because you claim to hate chain letters doesn't give you the entitlement to spew your fan-brattery or your leftist, Christophobic garbage my way and expect me to want anything to do with you!

Just because you're leftist and/or non-Christian doesn't mean you're not guilty of chain letter activity, however much you rant about right-wing chain letters! If you've ever forwarded that sappy animal rescue story, dirty joke, sickly cute picture of animals or babies doing unbelievably adorable things, that scary gang initiation warning or plea to save some endangered species or part of some eco system somewhere, you've passed on chain letters.

Just because you're moderate or right-leaning does not mean I'll encourage your infernal irritating habit of sending chain forwards, no matter how much or little truth might be contained in them! Stop it!

Just because I won't play the stupid gender/race card or put up with you pulling that bulltosh doesn't make me a racist, misogynist or misandrist!

Just because I may otherwise agree with your point of view generally about some political idiologies does NOT mean I will indulge you in your stupid, shameful nazi comparisons. You have lost all credibility and my respect once you have used that four-letter word or the H word (That would be 'Hitler) or that other f word "fascist" to describe anyone or entity that has not yet committed genocide and slavery etc. If you are going to use those terms against someone, you better have a damn good reason, such as direct quotes (and not misquoted/distorted twisted words from extremist chain letters) from the people in question shown to support violence and other serious oppression against their fellow man!

I will not support any chain letter campaigns from one of these to out the other. I will not support green/animal activists against lulz, or lulz against eco/animal activists. I will not support anti-abortionists against the tree-huggers, or green activists against anti-abortionists. I will not support left-wingers when they complain about and lulz over far-right chain letters. I will not support any republican trying to save the world from left-wing agendas with chain letters. I will not consider anyone to be credible, let alone a potential friend when they rant about chain letters yet turn out to be anti-Christian or an otaku or brony or any such thing.

Dislike real cruelty and know the difference between real and made up cruelty, and be careful of outfits who simply use any real cases of cruelty as a platform to advance their own crooked agendas. If you're an animal activist or anti-abortionist, you don't know the difference and all you do is cause more human suffering with malicious lies and other forms of attack.

I know people who have had abortions, and they are not Theresa Knorr, Susan Smith or Andrea Yates. There is no way in heck they would be capable of drowning babies in a bath or a lake, or toss a child off a bridge, or kill any other human being. I also know people who have hunted, and they are definitely not sadistic brutes who get off beating dogs and burning cats. You can be distressed about real animal suffering or about unplanned, unwanted pregnancies and abortions, without being an activist that cries "Animal/baby killer!"

You can care about children without being an anti-abortion activist. You can love animals without being an animal activist. You can be a republican and believer in God without spreading chain letters. You can actively and vehemently break all manner of chain letter, including republican and Christian oriented ones, without being a non-Christian and/or left-winger.

I am not your friend if you are into green/animal/eco activism which is misanthropy. I am not your friend if you are anti-abortionist, which has as little regard for suffering humans under injustice, accusing thousands of women of murder falsely and maliciously. as animal activism accuses thousands of people falsely and maliciously of animal abuse. I am not your friend if you are a lulz-er or a fan-brat or any other sadistic and immature twit, a racist, a sexist or any combination thereof. I am not your friend if you misuse the nazi reference. I will never encourage the forwarding of any chain letters, nor will I accept any excuses for such activity. I am not your friend if you are an anti-theist or just Christophobic. I am not your friend if you expect me to overlook, be complacent about, or agree with any of the above.

All of the above can go take a long walk off a short peer.

Don't even try to defend any of these things to me, I've heard more than enough excuses and diatribes from people who believe in one or more of them, there is nothing anyone can say to make me change my mind.

I am through trying to bend in order to form only weak alliances with people that don't last, sick of keeping the peace, agreeing with them on one thing and bitterly clashing on others.

No Christian-bashing, no god-bashing.

No eco/animal and food-cop activism. This means among other things, no defending the human-caused climate change hoax and evolution theory to me. It also means, no promoting veganism and touting all the latest food-cop nonsense from Dr. Oz and ilk.

No anti-abortion activism.

No birtherism.

No spreading or defending of any far-right chain letters.

No lulz or recommending to me anything you find on 4chan and other internet troll hangouts.

No bronyism, otakuism or other annoying and embarrassing fangirl/fanboy idiotic. It's one thing to be a casual fan of something, it's another to be an obnoxious, obsessive nutcase about it.

No going on about how great you think Obama is.

No dumb opposition to Obama either. Only smart opposition accepted, and by smart, I mean, it must not be something trotted out in those anti-Obama chain emails, and mustn't be full of "Obamacare" this and "Barack H./Hussein Obama" that. Neither will I put up with stupid cat-calls about anyone in the form of real name mangling to create insults. "Mooshell Obama" (Mooshell implies you think she's a cow, which implies you think she's too fat, which means you're a stupid food-cop just like she is and you are hung up on appearances and you want everyone looking like Super Model USA… Other names that are out: "Rachel Madcow" "Scarah Palin" "Obimbo/0Bummer" "Faux News" and using the word "teab***er" will get you cyber-slammed out of my online life and I will never, ever, take anything you say into consideration, you will be permanently dismissed and ignored.

Oh, and calling me "Carp" "Crap" "Crapi" "Carpi" or "Paisan" or anything that's meant to be derogatory will also get you sneered at and never taken seriously, plus the big ignore.

Got that?

Either you're with me on all of these issues, or you don't have the guts and strength of character to stand with me and you can take a hike! I'm so done with trying to compromise just to fit in a little.

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